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C it is
A and B miss verb to make first half a clause
D) "that was as early as" is not english :)
E) misplaced modifier problem. Is it the "mineral extraction" or the "method which is "well-established"?

C) has correct verb-tense agreement and makes "well-established" adjective of proper noun "method"
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A. as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established
"it" is wrong
B. as a method of the extraction of minerals well established
missing a verb
C. was a well-established method of mineral extraction
sounds good
D. was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was
Sounds like the mineral was as early as 18 century
E. had been a method of mineral extraction, well established
The comma before "well" is wrong.

I would choose (C) for this one.
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Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established as early as the eighteenth century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process.


A. as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established
B. as a method of the extraction of minerals well established
C. was a well-established method of mineral extraction
D. was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was
E. had been a method of mineral extraction, well established



Refer the below site to understand the usage of 'had been':

https://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pas ... nuous.html

IMO:

When we use had been in this sentence it would mean L is a method established in the past and not in use anymore. But the sentence is not trying to make that meaning.

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Option A - Incorrect.

Remove the modifier in the middle - "the recovery of copper from the drainage of mines".

We get the sentence -

"Leaching, as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established ..." - Incorrect.

this is like saying "John, he went to the movies". the subject "leaching" is repeated again as "it". Hence, redundant.

Option B - Incorrect.
Remove the modifier in the middle - "the recovery of copper from the drainage of mines".

"Leaching as a method of the extraction of minerals well established as early as 18th century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process."

Note that "but" requires parallelism. the right hand side "miners did not realize ..." is a complete clause.
However, the left hand side "leaching as a method ..." is not.

Option C - Correct answer.

Option D - Incorrect.
"Leaching was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was as early as the eighteenth century" --->
"method that was early as 18th century" - Incorrect. "Method" cannot be as early as 18th century. (we are comparing "method" to "18th century"). We need to say that the method was discovered as early as 18th century.
(Option C says "leaching was well-established as early as 18th century").

Option E - incorrect.
"Leaching had been a method of mineral extraction" - Usage of "had been" is not required.
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please tell me why we eliminated a and b and e and why we went with was form?
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please tell me why we eliminated a and b and e and why we went with was form?


Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established as early as the eighteenth century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process.

(A) as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established
verb is missing , therefore Incorrect

(B) as a method of the extraction of minerals well established
verb is missing , therefore Incorrect

(C) was a well-established method of mineral extraction
No error

(D) was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was
Illogical meaning . that is modifying mineral.

(E) had been a method of mineral extraction, well established
what is well established is modifying here ( noun modifier should be placed as close as possible to noun it is modifying) . There is no need to use past perfect as the temporal relationship is explicitly indicated and no separate emphasis is required.
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Here is the sentence structure of this sentence:
Clause 1: Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, as a method of the extraction of minerals,
Clause 2: it was well established as early as the eighteenth century,
Clause 3: but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize
Clause 4: that bacteria took an active part in the process.

Clause 1 does not have any verb. The subject “leaching” does not have any verb. Thus this sentence is a fragment. In addition, clause 2 is not connected appropriately to clause 1. It should be connected using a ; or ,FANBOYS.


Process of Elimination :-

Choice A - 'leaching and it' makes it an error of double subjecting with a single verb
Choice B – Fragment Error: This choice changes clause 2 into a modifier. But it does not address the absence of verb for the subject “leaching”.
Choice C – No errors.
Choice D – Modifier error: The sentence implies that well-established method of mineral extraction was as early as 18th century. This is non-sensical – saying that a method was as early as 18th century. It would have made sense if this said that the method existed as early as 18th century. This error may be construed as SV-Make sense error – the subject – “well established method” does not make sense with the verb – “was”.
Choice E – Verb error: This choice states uses past perfect tense for the verb – had been. This changes the intended meaning of the sentence. This sentence now implies that leaching is no longer a method of mineral extraction. In the light of this information, what follows does not make sense. Since this is no longer a method of mineral extraction, the fact miners realized its working 25 years back becomes invalid. Thus, because this sentences uses past perfect tense as shown, it distorts the intended meaning of the sentence.
Thus, the correct answer is Choice C.
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Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established as early as the eighteenth century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process.

(A) as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established - Leaching and it - 2 subjects and one verb
(B) as a method of the extraction of minerals well established - missing verb
(C) was a well-established method of mineral extraction - Correct
(D) was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was - illogical - leaching was not as early as the eighteenth century
(E) had been a method of mineral extraction, well established - tense issue - if the past perfect is used to describe a state or description of something (as opposed to an action verb), it should generally be used to describe a state/description that is no longer the case. since leaching is presumably still an extraction method (this is not the sort of thing that is subject to change), the past perfect is inappropriate.

Also, the modifier (starting with "well established") shouldn't be a nonessential modifier, i.e., it shouldn't be set off by commas.

Answer C
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Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established as early as the eighteenth century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process.

A. as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established
B. as a method of the extraction of minerals well established
C. was a well-established method of mineral extraction
D. was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was
E. had been a method of mineral extraction, well established


look at choice B
establish need a object and can not stand without object. it is transitive verb.

that is why choice B is wrong.

am i correct ?

Originally posted by thangvietnam on 01 Oct 2018, 09:45.
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Dear sir , will this be a correct sentence ?

Leaching, the recovery of copper from the drainage water of mines, is a well established method of the extraction of minerals as early as the eighteenth century, but until about 25 years ago miners did not realize that bacteria take an active part in the process.
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A. as a method of the extraction of minerals, it was well established
B. as a method of the extraction of minerals well established (fragment)
C. was a well-established method of mineral extraction
D. was a well-established method of extracting mineral that was
E. had been a method of mineral extraction, well established
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thank you Dmitry for explanation of 'had done".
I just want to say some words more.

if the context makes it clear that one action precede or finished before another action, we dont use past perfect but use 2 simple past tenses.

he was born speaking Vietnamese, but he mastered english.

but if context is unclear in that context could offer 2 meanings- two actions happen simultaneously and two actions are in sequence-, the we have to past perfect to show a specific meaning. if we dont use past perfect, the second meaning happens.
from this point, the effective way to test whether past perfect is correct is to replace past perfect with simple past. if this replacement change meaning, the past perfect is correct.

when you came, I had had my lunch
when you came, I had my lunch

so, we have the hard situation. for the same meaning- one action finished before the other-, we still have to use 2 patterns: simple past+simple past and past perfect+simple past.

when you came, I had had my lunch
he was born speaking vietnamese, but he mastered english.

both sentence show that one action precedes the other, but one sentence use past perfect+ simple past and the other uses simple past+simple past.

in other words, there are 2 ways to show one action precedes the other
1. clear context
2. had done

we dont use past perfect when
1. sequence /context is clear
2, we dont care which action come first.
we use past perfect when
we want to emphasize sequence and context is unclear

pls, comment on my explanation. I could come back to revise it

Originally posted by thangvietnam on 28 Jan 2019, 02:10.
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thangvietnam Two problems with that:

1) In this context, "established" isn't a verb. It is a past participle modifying "method": the method was well-established by the 18th century.

2) Even if we had a proper verb, it is part of a larger modifier ("as a method . . . century"), so it can't be the main verb. Consider this flawed example:

My parents, who arrived early, but didn't get tickets.

In this case, "arrived" is definitely a verb, but it is part of a modifier adding detail about my parents. It is not part of the sentence core. If we take the modifier out, we have "My parents, but didn't get tickets." This is clearly not a proper sentence, even though it has an additional verb ("get"). We need an action before "but" to justify that conjunction! To fix it, I can just cut "who" and the comma:

My parents arrived early but didn't get tickets.
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While I do understand why the other choices are wrong. I also feel the Choice "C" is a bit awkward. Shouldn't there be a preposition post extraction connecting with the second part of the sentence? It currently reads-Leaching, xxx, was a well-established method of mineral extraction(without a preposition) as early as the 18th ........?
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While I do understand why the other choices are wrong. I also feel the Choice "C" is a bit awkward. Shouldn't there be a preposition post extraction connecting with the second part of the sentence? It currently reads-Leaching, xxx, was a well-established method of mineral extraction(without a preposition) as early as the 18th ........?
That usage is okay. In case it helps, here are a few more examples:

1. The extinction event was thought to have occurred as many as ten million years ago.
2. The website was compromised as early as January 2014.
3. He was considered the most successful player in the league as early as 2016.
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