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The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

(A) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended
(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended
(C) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended
(D) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers to ascended
(E) a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers ascending

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I can understand (C) distorts the meaning. However, in (b), "that" might only modify a rooster?

please help me
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2019, 02:51
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janeyeo wrote:
The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

(A) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended
(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended
(C) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended
(D) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers to ascended
(E) a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers ascending

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I can understand (C) distorts the meaning. However, in (b), "that" might only modify a rooster?

please help me


This is a copy of the following GMAT Prep question: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-first-po ... 29174.html
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2019, 05:59
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(A) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended
should be in active voice

(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended
correct verb

(C) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended
correct grammar, but altered meaning.

(D) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers to ascended
"to" should be followed by infinitive

(E) a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers ascending
altered meaning
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2019, 10:15
Mahmoudfawzy83 wrote:
(A) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended
should be in active voice

(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended
correct verb

(C) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended
correct grammar, but altered meaning.

(D) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers to ascended
"to" should be followed by infinitive

(E) a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers ascending
altered meaning


Can you explain in more depth about the meaning changing in C please?

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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2019, 10:17
(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended ==> correct use.

Answer is (B)
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2019, 23:03
Thanks for your reply. I have one more question "that" does not only modify a rooster?
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Mahmoudfawzy83 wrote:
(A) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that were ascended
should be in active voice

(B) The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that ascended
correct verb -> "that" does not only modify a rooster?

(C) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended
correct grammar, but altered meaning.

(D) A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers to ascended
"to" should be followed by infinitive

(E) a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers ascending
altered meaning
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2019, 23:31
I'm a little stuck on how C is wrong.

We have:

A sheep, a duck, and a rooster (the noun and subjects) were the first balloon passengers (descriptive modifier right?) that ascended (correct verb)

I just don't see it. its parallel, subjects agree with tense and verb is in correct froml. Help please.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2019, 05:48
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I'm a little stuck on how C is wrong.

We have:

A sheep, a duck, and a rooster (the noun and subjects) were the first balloon passengers (descriptive modifier right?) that ascended (correct verb)

I just don't see it. its parallel, subjects agree with tense and verb is in correct froml. Help please.


C is grammatically correct, but SC cares about both the grammar and the meaning.

C says: A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

which means that a sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first passengers to launch from Versailles, but there may be other passengers before them who launched from other places other than Versailles.

While the main passage says that the first passengers (of all times) to ride the balloon were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2019, 07:28
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Mahmoudfawzy83 wrote:
MWithrock wrote:
I'm a little stuck on how C is wrong.

We have:

A sheep, a duck, and a rooster (the noun and subjects) were the first balloon passengers (descriptive modifier right?) that ascended (correct verb)

I just don't see it. its parallel, subjects agree with tense and verb is in correct froml. Help please.


C is grammatically correct, but SC cares about both the grammar and the meaning.

C says: A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

which means that a sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first passengers to launch from Versailles, but there may be other passengers before them who launched from other places other than Versailles.

While the main passage says that the first passengers (of all times) to ride the balloon were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.


Now I see. dang nabbit.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2020, 07:35
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A should be answer.

Reason a sheep, a duck, and a rooster cannot themselves ascend. These noun cannot perform the act of "ascend.".

These have to take passive structure

(Problem with E is that it misses the sheep)
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   09 Aug 2020, 02:52
Should A not be the answer?

The animals could not have ascended on their own and so, should A not be correct becasue of the usage of 'WERE' ?
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   09 Aug 2020, 04:17
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neelugarg33 wrote:
Should A not be the answer?

The animals could not have ascended on their own and so, should A not be correct becasue of the usage of 'WERE' ?

"To ascend" means "to go up." So, you can't ascend something in the way "ascend" is used in (A). In other words, you could not "go up" the animals, and the animals would not be "gone up."

So, "were ascended" in (A), which means "were gone up," is nonsensical.

The use of "ascended" in (B) makes sense. While the animals did not actively make use of the balloon to ascend, they did indeed ascend.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   09 Aug 2020, 09:06
MartyTargetTestPrep wrote:
neelugarg33 wrote:
Should A not be the answer?

The animals could not have ascended on their own and so, should A not be correct becasue of the usage of 'WERE' ?

"To ascend" means "to go up." So, you can't ascend something in the way "ascend" is used in (A). In other words, you could not "go up" the animals, and the animals would not be "gone up."

So, "were ascended" in (A), which means "were gone up," is nonsensical.

The use of "ascended" in (B) makes sense. While the animals did not actively make use of the balloon to ascend, they did indeed ascend.


Hi Expert, can you help?

In B, What "That ascended..." modifies to?

Is it modifies the roaster or it modifies a sheep, a duck , and a rooster? I believe that the intended meaning is that "That ascended..." should modify all animals.

So, in B we have 2 meanings? Can B be the correct answer?
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   10 Aug 2020, 02:43
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Hi,
I don't understand how B conveys the intended meaning.
So we have a duck , a sheep and a "rooster that ascended from France" together on the first balloon?
Or was the balloon ascended from France?
"That" modifies the noun just preceding it and in this case...
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   18 Sep 2020, 12:42
Hi,

My 2 cents,

Option B corrects the double "were" error in the original sentence. Option B clearly conveys that the first Air Baloon passengers were a Sheep, a Duck, and a Rooster that.........

Option C is good, it could have been the right answer if the order was different.
Option C states that A Sheep, a Duck and a Rooster were the first Balloon passengers that ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

The meaning of the initial sentence is that the Duck, Sheep etc were the first Air Balloon passengers ever!!
Option C states that these 3 animals were the first to ascend from Versailles.

It changes the meaning completely.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   18 Sep 2020, 22:31
The author is referring to the first passengerS, who ascended first, not who ascended from France only.
This eliminated CDE
Between A & B , i have considered B as they ascended instead of were ascended.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   24 Sep 2020, 22:15
MahmoudFawzy wrote:
MWithrock wrote:
I'm a little stuck on how C is wrong.

We have:

A sheep, a duck, and a rooster (the noun and subjects) were the first balloon passengers (descriptive modifier right?) that ascended (correct verb)

I just don't see it. its parallel, subjects agree with tense and verb is in correct froml. Help please.


C is grammatically correct, but SC cares about both the grammar and the meaning.

C says: A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

which means that a sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first passengers to launch from Versailles, but there may be other passengers before them who launched from other places other than Versailles.

While the main passage says that the first passengers (of all times) to ride the balloon were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.



This makes sense, Thanks !
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   26 Sep 2020, 06:02
avinashiitp wrote:
A should be answer.

Reason a sheep, a duck, and a rooster cannot themselves ascend. These noun cannot perform the act of "ascend.".

These have to take passive structure

(Problem with E is that it misses the sheep)


I have the same doubt. Experts are requested to clarify.
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Re: The first balloon passengers were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster that [#permalink] New post   12 Feb 2023, 21:57
MahmoudFawzy wrote:
MWithrock wrote:
I'm a little stuck on how C is wrong.

We have:

A sheep, a duck, and a rooster (the noun and subjects) were the first balloon passengers (descriptive modifier right?) that ascended (correct verb)

I just don't see it. its parallel, subjects agree with tense and verb is in correct froml. Help please.


C is grammatically correct, but SC cares about both the grammar and the meaning.

C says: A sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first balloon passengers that ascended from Versailles, France, in a basket beneath a hot-air balloon in September 1783.

which means that a sheep, a duck, and a rooster were the first passengers to launch from Versailles, but there may be other passengers before them who launched from other places other than Versailles.

While the main passage says that the first passengers (of all times) to ride the balloon were a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.


Hello Expert,

I don't understand why I need to consider 'there may be other passengers before them who launched from other places other than Versailles.' only in C and not B. What makes the difference here? The only difference I see between B and C is that the relative pronoun(that) modifies the different subjects (it modifies a sheep, a duck, and a rooster in B and the first passengers in B). But this difference is very subtle for me. Please help.
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