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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
(C) its numbers now five times more than when
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
(E) now with its numbers five greater since

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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   22 Nov 2013, 13:58
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monirjewel wrote:
Can someone explain the question?


Hi Moniriewel

I'm glad to help.

Note 1: for abstract numbers such as "numbers" ==> we must use "greater than". We mean the quantity is greater, not the number itself. We CAN'T count 1 quantity, 2 quantity :)
Note 2: After the semicolon, we must use a clause that has its own subject and own verb. The clause after the semicolon is a dependent clause.

The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
Correct.

(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
Wrong. "fivefold" is NOT a verb. The sentence is incomplete.

(C) its numbers now five times more than when
Wrong. "five times more than when" is wrong comparison.

(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
Wrong. awkward sentence.

(E) now with its numbers five greater since
Wrong. "five greater" is wrong. In addition, we need "than" after "greater".

Hope it helps.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   22 Jan 2005, 00:41
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Notice the semicolon. The next sentence needs to be a complete sentence. Only A fits this criteria.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   21 Jan 2005, 09:51
Though (A) is the best choice, it still looks like something is wrong with (A)
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   21 Jan 2005, 15:37
OA is (A)
I don't know how to choose between (A) and (B).
I thought the use of "times" and "-er than" is always wrong. By what I know, "times" goes with "as [blank] as". So in (A),

"five times greater than what" mean "its numbers are now five times as much as what they were..." because the "five times" is

addition to "one" already.
However, in (B), it means "its numbers now" equal five multiply by "what they were". (B) means
"its numbers now" = 5 x "what they were"
And (C) means
"its numbers now" = 6 x "what they were"
How can I possibily know what the sentence supposed to mean?
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   23 Jan 2005, 00:12
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B's problem is not the use of "fivefold". It is missing a verb.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   23 Jan 2005, 12:57
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Got it! I thought "fivefold" is a verb. I was wrong. Thanks.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   22 Nov 2013, 04:49
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Can someone explain the question?
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   30 Apr 2016, 02:40
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monirjewel wrote:
Can someone explain the question?


Hi Moniriewel

I'm glad to help.

Note 1: for abstract numbers such as "numbers" ==> we must use "greater than". We mean the quantity is greater, not the number itself. We CAN'T count 1 quantity, 2 quantity :)
Note 2: After the semicolon, we must use a clause that has its own subject and own verb. The clause after the semicolon is a dependent clause.

The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
Correct.

(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
Wrong. "fivefold" is NOT a verb. The sentence is incomplete.

(C) its numbers now five times more than when
Wrong. "five times more than when" is wrong comparison.

(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
Wrong. awkward sentence.

(E) now with its numbers five greater since
Wrong. "five greater" is wrong. In addition, we need "than" after "greater".

Hope it helps.


@pghai --> what is the the noun for "they " here?? They refers to nothing.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   02 May 2016, 10:06
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pqhai wrote:
monirjewel wrote:
Can someone explain the question?


Hi Moniriewel

I'm glad to help.

Note 1: for abstract numbers such as "numbers" ==> we must use "greater than". We mean the quantity is greater, not the number itself. We CAN'T count 1 quantity, 2 quantity :)
Note 2: After the semicolon, we must use a clause that has its own subject and own verb. The clause after the semicolon is a dependent clause.

The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
Correct.

(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
Wrong. "fivefold" is NOT a verb. The sentence is incomplete.

(C) its numbers now five times more than when
Wrong. "five times more than when" is wrong comparison.

(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
Wrong. awkward sentence.

(E) now with its numbers five greater since
Wrong. "five greater" is wrong. In addition, we need "than" after "greater".

Hope it helps.


@pghai --> what is the the noun for "they " here?? They refers to nothing.


The pronoun "they" refers to "numbers".

Gyrfalcon's (its) numbers now and its numbers (they) in the early 1970's are compared. The two elements of comparison are:
X: its numbers (Gyrfalcon's numbers) are now....
Y: they (Gyrfalcon's numbers) were when....
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   28 Jul 2016, 10:38
I thought a semicolon cannot function as a connector of two independent clauses, only FANBOYS?
Am I right that the two clauses are independent clauses?

Thanks.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   02 Aug 2016, 22:42
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.
(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
(C) its numbers now five times more than when
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
(E) now with its numbers five greater since

After semi colon there should be a complete sentence. Only A is a complete sentence.
Greater is also better than "more" because number is not more but greater.

Numbers are more => more numbers (doesnt make sense in this context)
Number is greater => greater number

they in "A" correctly refers to "numbers"
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   04 Aug 2016, 08:13
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I thought a semicolon cannot function as a connector of two independent clauses, only FANBOYS?
Am I right that the two clauses are independent clauses?

Thanks.


Semicolon is used to connect independent clauses .
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   20 Aug 2016, 10:00
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.


(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
correct - subject = its numbers |verb = are |comparison - numbers now and numbers when the use of DDT...

(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
this is not a sentence because there is no verb for the subject 'its numbers'. we need a clause after semi colon.

(C) its numbers now five times more than when
same as B

(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
we need a clause after semi colon.

(E) now with its numbers five greater since
we need a clause after semi colon.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   08 Dec 2016, 18:50
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The pronoun "they" refers to "numbers".

Gyrfalcon's (its) numbers now and its numbers (they) in the early 1970's are compared. The two elements of comparison are:
X: its numbers (Gyrfalcon's numbers) are now....
Y: they (Gyrfalcon's numbers) were when....


Hi sayantanc2k,
Then what does "what" refer to?
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   14 Dec 2017, 11:10
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when -Correct
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when -fragment
(C) its numbers now five times more than when -fragment
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when -fragment
(E) now with its numbers five greater since -fragment
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   04 Mar 2018, 19:03
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
(C) its numbers now five times more than when
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
(E) now with its numbers five greater since



Can someone explain me how can I identify if there is a verb in such long sentences or not?

in B ,

I thought 'were' is a verb but its not !


Please help me with a way I can easily identify verbs in even long sentences

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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   09 Aug 2018, 10:57
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Why "What" is required in option A. Because of "WHAT" I rejected option A.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   18 Jan 2019, 04:30
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
(C) its numbers now five times more than when
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
(E) now with its numbers five greater since

Edit: Watch Out: There is a modified version of this question in HERE


Bad modified Q of an original Q. The correct answer, which is A, in this Q is exactly the same as the wrong answer choice, which is E, in the original Q (https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-gyrfalco ... ml?kudos=1). If people have done the original Q, then might eliminate choice A because of "what" (See the original Q for why it's wrong). While this Q still provide some learning, I don't think it good to have modified Q whose correct answer is a wrong answer in the original Q.
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Re: The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close [#permalink] New post   19 May 2019, 15:49
What's the "antecedent" of "they" in A?
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The gyrfalcon, an arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's.

(A) its numbers are now five times greater than what they were when
(B) its numbers now fivefold what they were when
(C) its numbers now five times more than when
(D) now with fivefold the numbers it had when
(E) now with its numbers five greater since

Edit: Watch Out: There is a modified version of this question in HERE


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