York (Schulich)

Question

York was originally designed around the concept of "administrative studies" - a common core of insturction for MBA and MPA students. York offers a number of joint programs including one with Universite Lavel in Quebec, another with Sasin in Thailand, and one of the few joint MFA/MBA programs.

FT 2003 ranked York #26 worldwide- above Emory and USC and just below Michigan and UNC.

EIU 2003 placed York #22 worldwide- just above LBS and HEC Paris. If hypothetically transferred to the US, York would be ranked #16 among US schools.

https://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/mba.nsf

Hjort · Answer

York's Recruiter List https://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/ ... enDocument

tareks · Answer

so by this logic, York is ranked higher than other Canadian schools and compares to the top American schools. I still think Bweek rankings are more reliable.

I might be applying there cause am in TO now

Hjort · Answer

One could certainly argue that BW is more reliable but I am not so sure this is true for the "international" ranking. One aspect of BW that makes me a bit uneasy is that the total number of international schools evaluated is quite small and there are few schools (if any) in the southern hemisphere.

tareks · Answer

thats a good point regarding the International schools. Its not as focused as the US schools. I will check out the other rankings and balance all.

Hjort · Answer

Exec Bios

CEO:
https://www.scotiabank.com/cda/content/0 ... en,00.html

CEO:
https://www.cibc.com/ca/inside-cibc/exec ... unkin.html

EVP:
https://www2.bmo.com/bio/article/0,1262, ... 32,00.html

VP:
https://www.biovail.com/english/about%20 ... lt.asp?s=1

Steven · Answer

Not sure why this is (having not visited/not knowing any alumni), but there is this "silence" around York whenever the subject of canadian business schools comes up.

Both here and on business week's forum (which is excellent, by the way), the argument seems to be Ivey vs Rotman all the time.

Am I missing something here? Is it the concern about the recruitment stats (i.e. including part-timers), or something else I'm not picking up from the rankings/brochures etc. The facilities look great, the course looks fine, and the electives on csr, ethics, and endorsement from "beyond pinstripes" report look impressive.

Paul, I'd be grateful if you have any info or could re-direct me to a thread if it already exists. A visit is not an option (paris-based) so would welcome some insight.

Thanks, Steve

Hjort · Answer

A partial explanation might be that York is younger than University of Toronto and Western Ontario. Academic reputations especially for the "person on the street" can take a long time to develop.

International rankings have often viewed York as stronger than Western and having a similar rank to that of Toronto (as always, I urge readers not to take these rankings too seriously).

For instance, EIU 2004 ranked York far ahead of Western (#22 vs. #75!).
FT2005 again places York ahead of Western (#22 vs. #34) and just behind Toronto. FT2004 again placed York ahead of Western (#22 vs. #29) and near Toronto.

A look at CEO production might be informative as well. Note how two major financial services firms in Canada are headed by York MBAs (Scotiabank and CIBC).

The following thread covers some Canada MBA issues:
https://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=17007

Steven · Answer

Sounds feasible - although it's easier for a new player to break into the market with a strong brand name behind them and good marketing: it's working for Oxford Said.

Hjort · Answer

You make a good point regarding Said. However, Said's parent institution is one of the best known universities in the world so it has an advantage relative to a school like Schulich in which the parent university has existed for less than 50 years.

Paul · Answer

Oxford has a very good brand name but Hjort, when you talked about elite schools, you never mentioned anything about Said. How would you view it?

Wolf · Answer

thanks!

Schawjibb · Answer

I am looking for pursuing an MBA in a renowned/prestigious B-school. I understand, one needs to analyze so many variables when selecting/choosing a B-school that matches the person's ambition and personality.

But, while choosing a good B-school, I am also concerned about its ACCREDITATION by AACSB, EQUIS, or AMBA. Am I doing something really silly? Because some of my fellow friends say that, as long as a school is a match for you and is ranked in a widely-accepted B-School ranking, you never have to bother about accreditation. They mostly cite one name Schulich:York along with (sometimes) Melbourne BS.

My point is here, if accreditation doesn't play that much role in selecting a B-school, then why it is for?

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