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I remember the question as welk but I can’t sgare it here. Sorry but I gave exam around two weeks ago and had two such questions

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great please send an example

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will believe then

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It’s up to you to believe or not. I reported what I got and there is nothing for me to prove. Good luck

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to you too

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Why don’t believe there being verbal ds

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Some experienced test taker who really understands the test and knows how to handle it with some maturity can comment on it.

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Yeah we need managers here

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yes you are right. Let @chetan handle this query. Thanks!

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Hello everyone,
Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised
1.Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test.
2.Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically.
3.Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer.
4.Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about
5.We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice.

Hope it helps you!

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WOW!!! THANKS!

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Thank you

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chetan2u wrote:

Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Do you know if these are part of the official material or is this showing up in the actual exam only?

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chetan2u wrote:

Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Thank you for your response. Awesome!

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playthegame wrote:

Thank you

chetan2u wrote:

Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Do you know if these are part of the official material or is this showing up in the actual exam only?

@playthegame Yes, you can find 11 new Verbal/Logic DS among the 43 "hard" DS in the OG 2024 online question bank accessed at mba.com. These are not in the physical book. They were added to the online question bank sometime between June and October 2023.

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Data Sufficiency Butler: April 2024
April 30	DS 1	DS 2

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The month ends with a new MSR from GMAT Club.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/company-z-is ... 29226.html

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GMATCoachBen wrote:

poojaarora1818 wrote:

GMATCoachBen wrote:

@poojaarora1818 Regarding "Verbal" DS:

All 6 score reports from actual tests I reviewed had 3 of the 8 DS be "Non-Math Related".

In contrast, the 7 practice tests I reviewed (#1 and #2) had only 5 or 6 DS, and all were "Math-Related".

However, a student got 2/3 and 3/3 Non-Math Related DS wrong on 2 exams, and still scored 100%-ile on DS, with the other Math-Related ones correct, which suggests that those Non-Math questions were Experimental. So, it’s possible that, at least at the moment, the Non-Math are more likely to be Experimental.

Out of the 43 "hard" DS in the OG 2024 online question bank accessed at mba.com, 11 are new and are Verbal/Logic DS. These are not in the physical book.

I’m hoping that we will see more Verbal DS questions released at the end of May in the new OG.

Here’s an example score report:

DI Breakdown on Actual Test:

8 DS (3 are "Non-Math Related")
5 Graphs and Tables (likely 3 Graphs and 2 Tables, since every practice test had more graphs than tables, but I’d be curious if anyone remembers this split from their actual test)
4 Two-Part Analysis
3 Multi-Source Reasoning

GMATCoachBen Thank you so much for your valuable feedback, Ben! If, I correctly remember some of the Target Test Prep students mentioned the same thing in their debriefs they had experienced 2-3 Verbal DS ques which were logic-based reasoning or non-maths ques on their tests. But were those questions categorized under experimental or non-experimental hard to say?

@poojaarora1818 Hard to say. I only have that small sample size I mentioned above, which suggested that the 5 Non-Math DS mistakes a student made on 2 tests were experimental, since she still scored 100%-ile on DS. It does make some sense that GMAC might want to test those questions more, since they’re a new type. And even if this trend is true now, it could change in the future.

GMATCoachBen Thanks again for your response. Yes, I agree with this part GMAC might want to test Non-Maths DS ques as an experimental one, as they are new to us. This does make complete sense to me. Thanks for the clarification and addressing my doubts with patience, Ben!

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Lokster wrote:

Can’t see image, just an array of numbers. Is everyone else seeing the same?

Can you pls check the "Forum Discussion" right at the top of the page.

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Data Sufficiency Butler: May 2024
May 1	DS 1	DS 2

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chetan2u, But the Pic can be viewed under "forum Discussion" .

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poojaarora1818 wrote:

chetan2u, But the Pic can be viewed under "forum Discussion" .

Yes, that’s correct, and that is why I have mentioned Chat group...

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chetan2u wrote:

Yes, that’s correct, and that is why I have mentioned Chat group...

Oops! I missed the word "Chat" . Yes, you are correct that the pic is not formatted in the chat group. My apologies!

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New TPA question from GMAT Club https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-class-te ... l#p3391199

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poojaarora1818 wrote:

Oops! I missed the word "Chat" . Yes, you are correct that the pic is not formatted in the chat group. My apologies!

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Here is that image again. Hope now it’s visible. IT was too big for the chat.

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Bunuel wrote:

Here is that image again. Hope now it’s visible. IT was too big for the chat.

I think that you mistakenly deleted the whole response to my query answered by Ben. But anyway I can still view it under the Forum Discussion tab.

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Data Sufficiency Butler: April 2024
May 2	DS 1	DS 2

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DI Butler: https://gmatclub.com/forum/mary-needs-3 ... 29298.html

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chetan2u, I have a quick ques are these DI butler ques from the official ones? Please provide clarification on my doubt.

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poojaarora1818, almost all are GMAT CLUB questions except very few that are from OG and 2-3 from focus. The source is mentioned is mentioned in the first column incase it is official.

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chetan2u wrote:

poojaarora1818, almost all are GMAT CLUB questions except very few that are from OG and 2-3 from focus. The source is mentioned is mentioned in the first column incase it is official.

chetan2u, Thank you so much for the clarification.

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Data Sufficiency Butler: April 2024
May 3	DS 1	DS 2

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Anyone have any strategies for Data Insight questions, specifically multi source reasoning and two part analysis

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Is rest of the official guide review for data insight questions all uploaded?

The table and msr were pending

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Can anyone please share the link to the post with distribution of quant topics in GMAT FE.. I remember bb had posted but cannot find it

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AnuK2222 wrote:

Can anyone please share the link to the post with distribution of quant topics in GMAT FE.. I remember bb had posted but cannot find it

Search for GMAT focus syllabus … You can also limited to a certain author if the searches crapping out.

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Found it, if anyone is interested
https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-syllabu ... l#p3332503

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Data Sufficiency Butler: April 2024
May 6	DS 1	DS 2

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hi, How can i track which all questions i have solved and which one is pending in gmat club questions bank

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shilpitiwari wrote:

hi, How can i track which all questions i have solved and which one is pending in gmat club questions bank

If you take the timer, questions that you have solved will have a little time icon in front of them in the forum view.

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I had a quick question on a particular question

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I don’t understand how 3rd question is wrong

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Jayam12 wrote:

I don’t understand how 3rd question is wrong

Can you explain what exactly do you think the 3rd part means? Or what exactly are you looking for in the table to answer the 3rd part?

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Jayam12 wrote:

I don’t understand how 3rd question is wrong

It seems like a tricky question. The first time I try to solve it, I think I made the same mistake you did. I don’t know if it is the same mistake but I made a mistake 😂

I looked at the nine minutes in the beginning and then noticed the six minutes and I noticed that would seem to be some people spent six minutes downloading the update even though they were not within three minutes of each other.

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I assumed that since there were people who were within three minutes of each other who spent six minutes and people who were not within minutes of each other who spent six minutes then the answer would be “no”

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however, if you examine all of the six minute downloads, all of them were for people who were within three minutes of someone else. It doesn’t have to be only three minutes down or three minutes up. It could be in any direction and based on that the answer is indeed “Yes”

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tricky question

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Hloo

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has anyone done this DI question from mock 3?

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and has a good explanation on why the second dropdown is none?

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@Bunuel

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I posted that question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-small-firm ... l#p3393421

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mecapo21 wrote:

has anyone done this DI question from mock 3?

Can you please share all values in each of the dropdowns? Thank you!

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mecapo21 wrote:

and has a good explanation on why the second dropdown is none?

because of the 5 leaders in party A none have more than 50% approval from ALL THREE parties. all three parties would be the key here.

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I can give a more thorough explanation but let me know if that helps

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mecapo21, look at those 5 and see other 2 party ratings under the same leader you will see non of had 50%+ from both B & C

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Jayam12 wrote:

I don’t understand how 3rd question is wrong

if you just filter out time of update you will notice those who had downloads within 3mins successively have time more than 3

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mecapo21, I posted that question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/nation-x-is- ... 29428.html Please let me know if the dropdown values were different. Thank you!

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dropwdown values are correct

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I can see what I was doing wrong. Thanks!

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Data Sufficiency Butler: April 2024
May 7	DS 1	DS 2

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Hi, could someone explain me or pin me the solution of this Data sufficiency question ? I struggle to understand the solution

the daily profit, P, for selling x units of a certain item at a sporting goods store can be moddeled by the function P(x) = -a(x- b/2a)^2 + (b)^2 /4a + c, where a and b are positive constant and c nonnegative constant. what is the maximum daily profit for selling this item?

1) b^2 + 4ac = 52ac/3

2) c = 360

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khaos3787 wrote:

Can you please share the source of the question? Also, the screenshot would be nice. Thank you!

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khaos3787 wrote:

Hi, could someone explain me or pin me the solution of this Data sufficiency question ? I struggle to understand the solution the daily profit, P, for selling x units of a certain item at a sporting goods store can be moddeled by the function P(x) = -a(x- b/2a)^2 + (b)^2 /4a + c, where a and b are positive constant and c nonnegative constant. what is the maximum daily profit for selling this item? 1) b^2 + 4ac = 52ac/3 2) c = 360

The question is discussed here

https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-daily-pr ... 27551.html

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Bunuel wrote:

Can you please share the source of the question? Also, the screenshot would be nice. Thank you!

It’s from one of the gmat official mocks

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Nullbyte wrote:

khaos3787 wrote:

Hi, could someone explain me or pin me the solution of this Data sufficiency question ? I struggle to understand the solution the daily profit, P, for selling x units of a certain item at a sporting goods store can be moddeled by the function P(x) = -a(x- b/2a)^2 + (b)^2 /4a + c, where a and b are positive constant and c nonnegative constant. what is the maximum daily profit for selling this item? 1) b^2 + 4ac = 52ac/3 2) c = 360

The question is discussed here

https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-daily-pr ... 27551.html

Bunuel wrote:

Can you please share the source of the question? Also, the screenshot would be nice. Thank you!

It’s from one of the gmat official mocks

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That’s what I thought. Thank you!

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Jayam12 wrote:

I don’t understand how 3rd question is wrong

Idk if this is still a doubt or not but based on what i understand if you sort the table by time and if the difference between 2 "time of update"s is less than 3 mins then the length of download is always more than 3 mins for those people.

Think of it as if u get the most of your wifi speed when you alone are on the network however if everyone around you is using the wifi too then the speed drops and your download slows down.

I apologize for the analogy in advance xD

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Data Sufficiency Butler: May 2024
May 8	DS 1	DS 2

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Any update on the pending data insight review questions? 😓

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Join DI Series EP4 - Mastering Multi-Source Reasoning Questions https://gmatclub.com/forum/redirect.php?id=zxilh3w8ve

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Data Sufficiency Butler: May 2024
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Two NEW MSRs for the week 03-09 May https://gmatclub.com/forum/technologica ... l#p3394596 https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-marina-a ... l#p3394585

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hello. is there any way i can subscribe for DI question of the day and get it in my email?

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New Table questions from OG DI Review posted in the following links. https://gmatclub.com/forum/di-butler-425510.html https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-entire-l ... 27334.html

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is this one simply try and error ? or is there a specific method ?

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khaos3787 wrote:

is this one simply try and error ? or is there a specific method ?

The question has E written all over. The variables are not restricted so they can assume any value and answer could be yes or May not be yes. For any value of t, one could get any answer. Say t=1, so is R=a+b+c = 0? R=1-3+2=0..yes a=1, b=-3 and C=2, while R=3+1+2=6..no a=3, b=1 and C=2… E

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khaos3787 wrote:

is this one simply try and error ? or is there a specific method ?

That question is discussed here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-rate-r-a ... 23297.html

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khaos3787 wrote:

is this one simply try and error ? or is there a specific method ?

The rate R at which a chemical reaction in a certain industrial process proceeds is a function of time t and is given by \(R = at^3 + bt^2 + c\), where a, b, and c are constants and t > 0. Is there a positive value of t for which R = 0 ?

If we leave all that mambo jumbo out, the question essentially asks whether \(at^3 + bt^2 + c = 0\), has a solution for t, where t > 0.

(1) a > b

If all three constants are positive and t is positive, then \(at^3 + bt^2 + c\) becomes the sum of three positive values and cannot equal 0. So, in this case, no value of positive t would satisfy \(at^3 + bt^2 + c = 0\).

However, in other cases, for example, if a = 0, b = -1, and c = 1, the equation becomes t^2 = 1, which has a positive t satisfying it (t = 1).

Not sufficient.

(2) c > 0.

Similarly, we can deduce the insufficiency of this statement.

(1)+(2) Combining the statements, we still lack sufficient information. Again, we can consider the cases:

If all three constants are positive and t is positive, then \(at^3 + bt^2 + c\) becomes the sum of three positive values and cannot equal 0. So, in this case, no value of positive t would satisfy \(at^3 + bt^2 + c = 0\).

However, in other cases, for example, if a = 0, b = -1, and c = 1, the equation becomes t^2 = 1, which has a positive t satisfying it (t = 1).

Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

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